tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4321422627188917599.post6590996800157549810..comments2023-12-21T03:53:20.907-08:00Comments on The Liberator Today: Dropping the Mask - Coffee Party UpdateB-Daddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13880092017105841256noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4321422627188917599.post-91579852534504785162010-04-15T23:40:06.602-07:002010-04-15T23:40:06.602-07:00OBRag,
Thanks for commenting. You pose an interes...OBRag,<br />Thanks for commenting. You pose an interesting philosophical question as to where I get my anti-left wing sensibilities from, I may try a blog on that some day. With respect to corporations, they are neither inherently good nor evil, but opportunistic. The free market is the disciplining force that is most effective at keeping their behavior under control. I think that many corporations today have become incredible forces for good in the world. American corporations help feed the world for example. <br />The most egregious corporate abuses occur when big government teams up with big business, see Kelo vs New London. In general, if someone is a wage slave, then they need to get new skills and find new work. With respect to the banks, they are subsidized under too big to fail, when many should have just gone bankrupt. There is deposit insurance to protect the little guy. It is the government intervention that encourages the risk taking that led to the financial collapse. The answer is to punish the stockholders with bankruptcy and the corporate executives with loss of their jobs.<br />As I have said before, if we want an anti-corporate agenda, then let's end the subsidies, bail outs and tax breaks that go to corporations. But that would mean vast simplification of the tax code not seen since Reagan and Rostenkowski worked out a deal. In general, it means we have to renounce government interference in the economy to achieve a true anti-corporate agenda. But politicians of both parties can't resist the temptation. This is where the Tea party comes in, we educate the public on the negative impact and demand a smaller more accountable government. I'm not talking laissez-faire but just minimally intrusive policies.<br />For example, on health care, wouldn't it have been good enough to just subsidize the lower income brackets to purchase health care and guarantee portability so that pre-existing conditions can be covered? No, now we have goodies provided for all sorts of industry groups with a huge new bureaucracy to decide winners and losers in the industry, that will only cause more corporate cash to flow into elections. In my view, the left wing agenda just fed the very beast it purports to be trying to slay. Peter Senge talks about this in a different way in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Discipline-Practice-Learning-Organization/dp/0385517254/" rel="nofollow">The Fifth Discipline</a>, we create the very reality that causes the problem we are trying to deal with, because we fail to apply systems thinking to the problem. Big government turns out to be the cause of big business abuse not the cure.B-Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13880092017105841256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4321422627188917599.post-84577594108284353112010-04-15T17:10:51.633-07:002010-04-15T17:10:51.633-07:00B-Daddy, Have appreciated your words and efforts t...B-Daddy, Have appreciated your words and efforts to try to rid the Tea Party movement of racists and homophobes. It's gonna be a long uphill battle. But it's worth a try. <br /><br />Not sure, of course, where you got all your anti-left sensibilities from, but no matter what our political affiliations are, we're still treated like peasants and paycheck slaves by the big banks and corporations. <br /><br />So, it could be that around campaign finance reform and reform of Wall Street could be some areas we could work with you on.the OB Raghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09067860124463654197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4321422627188917599.post-86525433526934606032010-04-12T09:26:52.147-07:002010-04-12T09:26:52.147-07:00Greetings Liberator,
First, Mr. Liberator I was t...Greetings Liberator,<br /><br />First, Mr. Liberator I was the one behind the camera of the video you posted of the first Coffee Party meeting. I enjoyed our short conversation and hope to continue it in the future. SarahB I thought your remarks for the SDNN article were fair and "civil." Thank you. <br /><br />I don't want this to be "Us against them." Of course the media would love that.<br /><br />The consensus at most of our meetings is to address the issue of Campaign Finance Reform . I believe that will be the first priority of the Coffee Party.<br /><br />This issue should be non-partisan. Both Democratic and Republicans politicians are influenced by money from corporations, PAC's and Unions.<br /><br />We all want to be heard, we want our politicians to be accountable.<br /><br />Gerrymandering is another area to explore. The lines have drawn in California to where incumbents need not listen to all sides of an argument. <br /><br />Think of the results, if citizens from differing sides of the political spectrum can come together on this issue. <br /> <br />O.K. maybe I'm a disillusional, but a guy can dream can't he.Mike Jameshttp://www.coffeepartysd.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4321422627188917599.post-31526155896121323372010-04-11T13:32:07.478-07:002010-04-11T13:32:07.478-07:00Liberator: Thanks for this analysis, which I will...Liberator: Thanks for this analysis, which I will also share. I am posting this piece from on the Coffee Party from my political editor, for your review and information. I would love your thoughts on it.<br /><br />http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-04-09/politics-city-county-government/coffee-party-movement-makes-its-way-to-san-diegoMutnodjmethttp://templeofmut.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4321422627188917599.post-26522348940553344342010-04-11T06:49:15.618-07:002010-04-11T06:49:15.618-07:00My first priority is to get rid of the designated ...My first priority is to get rid of the designated hitter rule. I think I'll pop over and vote!K T Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10259428595745509790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4321422627188917599.post-68254681691167462622010-04-11T01:03:09.006-07:002010-04-11T01:03:09.006-07:00Thank you Sarah.Thank you Sarah.B-Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13880092017105841256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4321422627188917599.post-89762471148354788662010-04-11T00:54:56.774-07:002010-04-11T00:54:56.774-07:00Right on the money! Will share tomorrow when traff...Right on the money! Will share tomorrow when traffic is higher...SarahBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10201948440490000538noreply@blogger.com